[1825] Bill in NJ
Cabin Filter Rip Off
Went to jiffy lube for oil change manager showed me two
air filters the cabin filter was dirty and clogged with dirt and
leaves told him to replace it got my bill and they had charged me
Forty dollars and 99 cents for a filter I could buy at a auto store
for between 12-24 dollars. What a rip off will not go to jiffy lube
again.
[1824] Danny in St. Charles, MO
Engine Flush
Destroyed Engine
I went to Jiffy Lube
#613 in St. Charles, MO to have a simple oil change. The technician
called me out to the bay. I was expecting the usual sales pitch for
the extras they always try to sell me. This time the technician told
me that I needed an Engine Flush performed because my engine was
showing signs of “Heavy Sludge”.
He said the flush
would clean out and flush all of the old, dirty sludge from my engine
leaving me with a clean engine and a longer engine life. I told him
that I just wanted my oil changed, but asked if he thought I really
NEEDED it or if it could wait for another visit. He told me that I
need to have it done today because there is a lot of sludge in the
engine and it needs to come out right away. Well, stupid me agreed to
it. I stupidly thought his training on the product (which is a
chemical solvent) and procedures of how to do it in conjunction with
further training on when and why to perform the service and when and
why NOT to perform the service, all of his expertise would allow him
to make the best decision. My car only had 60,000 miles on it and I
plan on keeping it for a long time. My next own words still haunt me:
“Ok, Sure. Go ahead, If you think I need it.” Those words keep echoing
in my head as I lay awake at night.
Well, 40-50 miles
down the highway later, my engine was destroyed. We eventually found a
local mechanic who agreed to look at it. After a couple hours of
looking at it he told me that the engine was ruined and it would have
to be rebuilt or replaced. He asked if anything has been
changed/worked on/giving problems etc. lately. I told him that the
only thing that has been done to it was an oil change and an engine
flush at Jiffy Lube. He immediately said “Oh no. NEVER let anyone do
an engine flush on a car, especially if there are signs of sludge in
the engine. It won’t flush all of the sludge out, but more importantly
it will only dislodge more chunky, thick sludge that will clog
screens, filters and oil passages. By doing this, the engine won’t
receive the oil it needs and will incur catastrophic damage.” I
decided not to jump the gun and asked him to tow it back to my house
so I could get a second opinion.
Once I returned home
I called the local store and the corporate offices and have spoken to
several people at Heartland/Jiffy Lube. At first their response were
great. They were very eager to look at it, send an inspector out to
look at it and send it to “their” mechanic to look at it. Now that it
is very clear that this engine flush caused the problem, the
communication from them has almost completely stopped. The District
Manager won’t return my calls or texts. I’ve contacted the COO and the
office of the CEO but that hasn’t done me any good over the last week.
The only response I got from a text sent to the District Manager was
“I apologize, I will have the official response this afternoon I have
been assured”. That was last week. I’ve called and texted him a few
times since that vague response and have got nothing in return.
In the past 2 weeks
since this problem occurred I’ve spoken to 4 certified mechanics who
ALL agree that engine flushes on an engine showing signs of sludge is
the LAST thing you want to do. They all agree that doing so could and
probably will cause extreme engine damage. All four have heard of this
happening and 2 of them have actually witnessed it for themselves.
I’ve learned that almost all dealerships have instructed their
mechanics to NEVER perform engine flushes. In fact, most makers will
void the warranty on a car if it is discovered that an engine flush
had been performed on the vehicle. Any real mechanic will tell you to
NEVER, EVER let anyone perform an engine flush. I wish I had this
knowledge when I was standing in the Jiffy Lube bay getting sold on.
I also spoke to the
lead technician from the company who manufactures and distributes the
Engine Flush solvent that Jiffy Lube uses. The company is called QMI.
Their lead technician on the customer support line says he is also a
certified mechanic. I told him that a Jiffy Lube tech pushed an engine
flush on me because he saw signs of “heavy sludge” in my engine. The
QMI mechanic ALSO stated the exact same thing as the other 4 mechanics
mentioned above. NEVER EVER flush an engine that has signs of heavy
sludge because it would do WAY more harm than good. HE said doing such
a thing could ruin the engine. He said that the Jiffy Lube tech
instead should have recommended changing the oil every 2000 miles and
allow the engine to clean itself out. The QMI mechanic also said that
the Jiffy Lube technician was wrong for suggesting, recommending or
ever performing an engine flush on a dirty engine, and he was using
the product in a far different way than it was intended.
Since the start of
this I have issued complaints with the Better Business Bureau, my
states Attorney General office and the Federal Trade Commission (since
this is a franchise). I also sent a copy of my receipt with a letter
of rejection of Mandatory Arbitration / Subrogation and Class Action
Waivers (as stated on the back of the receipt) to the local store and
the corporate offices on the 5th day after this all happened. (You
have 15 days according to the receipt) I am in initial discussion with
a local television producer that handles consumer protection reports
for the local Fox affiliate. They are very interested in my story and
said there are a couple other Jiffy Lube customers they are working
with as well. All four mechanics I spoke with are more than willing to
give their expert opinions on this matter on camera.
But most importantly
I have an attorney (with experience in dealing and winning against
Jiffy Lube) ready to take legal action. We are simply waiting for
Heartland Automotive /Jiffy Lube’s formal response as to whether or
not they will are willing to pay for the repairs and expenses
associated with the damage they caused to my vehicle. The total
estimates for everything is nearly $6000. If Jiffy Lube decides to
fight this further, then legal action is eminent. The cost only gets
higher from there.
Good luck to everyone
else dealing with this company. Hopefully everyone will learn to take
the extra time and maybe a minimal amount of money, and take your car
to a real mechanic who knows what they are doing. I know I have
learned.
[1823] Boyd
in Yelm, WA Oil Filter Blew Off
Hi guys I just want to post,
not all jiffy lube locations duck issues they cause. I took a 94
toyota 4x4 in and had the oil changed. The oil filter they put on blew
off. My engine had over 200k miles on it, and since they could not
find a good used motor they had a brand new engine put in as a
replacement. This happened at the store in Yelm Washington and was
handled by them and the district manager very professionally.
[1822] Jenn
Broke Tensioner
For one they broke my tensioneron a belt they
wernt supposed to change now my cars rattling really loud brought it
back they say itsnotthere responsibility charged me 120 to break my
car
[1821]
Kristi in Irvine, CA Transmission Failure
On 1/27/11 I took my Acura MDX
to the Jiffy Lube #1856 in Irvine, California for a standard signature
service oil change. The technician overfilled my vehicle’s
transmission fluid which resulted in transmission failure less than 13
hours later.
I have sent a demand letter to
the local Franchise owners as well as filed a claim with the Better
Business Bureau. They did not respond to my letter and claimed no
responsibility to the Better Business Bureau.
I have diagnostic evidence as
well as several witnesses which all point to the addition of too much
transmission fluid by Jiffy Lube. When Jiffy Lube replied to the BBB
they stated they put in 1 quart of ATF fluid while the
paper work I have from the date of service indicated they put in
1 ½ quarts which would of increased the transmission fluid
level above the correct operating level for the vehicle resulting in
transmission failure. As a result, we were forced to trade in
our inoperable vehicle at a substantially less than the current
trade-in value (approximately $3,000.00).
I am prepared to take Jiffy
Lube and the Jiffy Lube Franchisees Marc and Dru Fanticola to small
claims court if we can not resolve this issue.
[1820] Mark
Axle Plug Missing
My wife and I were getting
ready to go on a trip and I asked her to run the truck to Jiffy Lube
to get serviced. Not more than an hour into our trip I noticed black
oil accumulating on the back windshield. I pulled over and discovered
that the plug for the rear axle oil fill was missing. I went to NAPA
auto parts and got another plug and two quarts of synthetic oil for
the axel ($30.39) and luckily had no damage to the gearing. I returned
to the Jiffy Lube that performed the service and presented my case and
receipts for the parts and the receipt for service. Stacy the manager
on duty seemed VERY put out that I was bothering her with my
complaint. In fact, she told me that she personally supervised the
service on the truck and the plug was there when I left. I guess the
big coincidence is that after 124,000 miles and 8 years, the plug just
happened to fall out two hours after I had the truck serviced. Please.
I requested a full refund for the service and a refund for the parts
that I had to buy. She told me that she was not authorized to refund
me anything and that she would have to talk to the district manager
and have her get back to me in a “day or two”. Now, I just got a call
back and was told I have to bring the truck back so they can take
pictures and do an investigation. More wasted time I will never get
back.
Two days later: I returned and
got the truck “inspected” by Jiffy Lube, they refunded the cost of the
service and the parts I had to buy. (Not the cost of the visit as a
whole, just the $34 in service fees. Very generous! I will never
return to Jiffy Lube again.
[1819] RP in Savannah, GA Insufficient
Oil Destroys Engine
On Friday, 10
September, I took my vehicle in for an oil change. The car was driven
for maybe 75 miles or less on 10 September (Saturday), parked all
day/night Sunday...and on Monday while driving it to work, the engine
started a loud knocking noise. After getting the car towed and checked
at our auto mechanic, it was found to have no oil in the engine, which
resulted in a now bad engine in need of repair.
Jiffy Lube happens to be right across the street from our mechanic,
(Which was closed on Saturday and why we went to Jiffy Lube
originally) so I first went to Jiffy Lube about the issue, Someone
from Jiffy Lube walked over to the auto shop, insisted repeatedly on
bringing the car over to Jiffy Lube, but under the mechanics advice to
me, I denied movement of the vehicle.
The Jiffy Lube associate then went and got 2 quarts of oil from his
shop, added into the 'supposedly full' engine and afterwards claimed
that the engine had oil in it. I got a call from the regional manager
and there was no progress. I called corporate and the corporate office
had the regional manager call me again, claiming that it was not their
fault. There was no type of investigation done, The auto shop vouches
that the vehicle had no oil when received and vouches that the engine
was in perfect working condition before the incident.....(They
actually worked on the car prior). I am now at an inconvenience of not
having my vehicle and forced to go to small claims court.
[1818] Joe in Seaford, NY Forgot To
Replace Oil Filter
Routine oil change on 9/10/11. JL did not install an oil filter.
Oops! The engine seized after two miles. The JL manager said “It’s
no big deal”, and the repairman said “S*** Happens”. They are
replacing the entire engine with one from a junkyard. JL manager said
“even if you take me to court they won’t make me put a new engine in”.
I guess he’s been to court before!!! I could not use my own
mechanic, and I will not have a car for a week. The JL manager said
he’d “look into” a rental car, but guess what? I haven’t heard back
from him.
[1817]
Jam in Columbus, OH Peeing in Fuel Tank
I
went to the jiffy lube here in Columbus Ohio on 8/13/2011 to get the
oil and oil filter changed on my 2004 sable witch is my baby. well
siting and waiting over 2 hours I got up to take look out of the
service station window to see my car. while looking at my car I
noticed something that didn’t seem rite. the service man had taken my
fuel cap off and was just kind of standing there with a funny smirk on
his face about 3 minutes later I look back over at my car and the guy
is peeing in my fuel tank!!!! I said.”sir!!! why are you pissing in my
tank??? he advised me that that’s what they do on all 2003 and newer
models to clean the injectors. so I said ok,thanks....god idea. About
3 miles down the road my car lost all power and stalled. I
called the manager and told him about this matter. he said to me.
that’s what you get for coming to jiffy lube idiot!!!!! I will never
EVER return to this store again and am very dissatisfied.
[1816]
Pat in Gig Harbor, WA Unnecessary Oil
Spills
I have gone back twice now 1st
time they told me my oil plug did not get tightened and they topped it
off and will reprimand the employee cause it has happened before well
same night oil again leaking now I am really upset . I live in a very
nice house that I maintain well and for the 1st time since
I have owned it I have 3 oil spots and now a drip up the driveway.
They gave me some packets of tide and told me to use hat water and
elbo grease and it should come off wow after 38 visitts with all my
cars I will not be back
[1815] Robbie in Lantana, FL Destroyed
Undercarriage & Transmission
August 20, 2011. My good
friend took me to Jiffylube for the first time-usually I go to
goodyear or my personal mechanic, however I was leaving out of town
and needed a "quick oil change" as Jiffylube provides. Today, I really
regret it.
I went in to Jiffylube for
a full-synthetic oil change and a new pair of wiper blades. Two very
simple things turned into a $6000 project. The first stupid mistake
they made costed me about $1000 in undercarriage repairs. They brought
the car up onto the bay after I specifically told them not to because
my car is lowered. The car was speedily driven on top of the bay when
I heard a disgusting crunching noise from across the garage. I told
them that is was I was talking about to NOT MOVE THE CAR ON BAY #3.
The bay was raised to high and when the car was brought up and over,
the entire exhaust and catalytic converter was ripped open and smashed
in. I was not aware of this until I made them take me underneath the
car to see if there was any damage-- oh there was. This was discovered
when I turned on the car and pushed down the accelerator. The car
would not go past 5MPH! I took it back around and they had no idea
what was wrong. I explained to them the car was in Nissan sleep mode
to protect the car from being damaged further. They told me the
transmission fluid that was put in there was the wrong transmission
fluid, so they flushed the old fluid out and put their "new" fluid in.
The car was towed to my mechanic who had warned me about Jiffylube's
RECYCLED transmission fluid and that we may have a problem very soon.
2 days later the entire transmission was shot. With the combination of
undercarriage damage and a used transmission it ended up costing me
about $6000. Great job, Jiffylube.
[1814]
Danny Arbitrator Required Unless Rejected
I took my 2007 Ford
F150 to Jiffy Lube for a quick oil change before a long road trip.
While there I got the usual “call out” to the bay to let me know all
of the extra stuff they wanted to sell me. I was told that I
needed an engine flush to get all of the sludge out of my engine. I
questioned whether or not it was really needed and he told me yes,
it’s definitely needed as I had “massive sludge” in my engine. I
stupidly agreed. Oil change plus Engine flush = $90
The
next day I set off on my long road trip. About 35 miles into the trip
my oil light came on. My oil light has never came on for as long as
I’ve owned the car. I immediately pulled over and checked the oil
level. It was actually a quart too much. Thankful that it wasn’t empty
but still concerned that the oil level could be causing pressure
issues, I pulled back on the highway in search of the first service
station. I barely made it to the next exit as my car shook and nearly
stalled every time I pressed the gas.
I made it to a closed
by helpful garage and had them look at it. They quickly determined my
engine had just blown and I needed to replace the engine for $4000
(used). Not taking his word for it I then asked them to tow it to my
house. Towing = $207 ($297 total)
As soon as I arrived
back home I called the local store that performed the service and let
them know what happened. He manager on duty took my information and
said he had to talk to his “higher ups” and would get back with me. I
then got on the internet and began researching Jiffy Lube Engine Flush
Damage. All I can say is WOW. There are so many story that are EXACTLY
like mine, almost verbatim. Just the names and towns are different for
the most part.
The store manager
called me back about an hour later and let me know they would
definitely refund my $50. He also said that since I let me oil change
go beyond the recommended 3000 miles there was probably too much
sludge and they wouldn’t be responsible. I challenged that stupid
remark with something to the effect of “You told me I had a sludge
problem and you would get it ALL out. Not some of it. Not most of it.
Not nearly all of it. You said you would get it all out, and you
didn’t. What was left behind clogged the oil passage and eventually,
and quite quickly blew my engine. I expect Jiffy Lube to handle this
problem quickly, honestly and morally.” He then gave me the number to
the corporate office.
My next step was
typing an email to Jiffy Lube’s corporate office. I also copied the
local Better Business Bureau. The email explained in great detail all
of the events and discussions that took place. After that I left
several voicemail messages to top brass at Jiffy Lube and actually
received very good responses, and the responses came quite quickly.
Now, I have to rent a
car at $250 per week ($540 total so far and the vehicle hasn’t been
touched yet).
They want to send a
“Third Party Certified Inspector” to look at my car in order to learn
about what caused the damage. Should I allow this or demand a mechanic
of my choosing? Also, on the back of the invoice that I signed
is a statement saying that I agree to use an arbitrator unless I send
a letter of rejection within 15 days of the invoice signing. I
suppose that would be the best thing for me to do at this point?
Does anyone else out
there have a similar experience to what I’ve had so far? If yes, how
did it end and what are the details? I would greatly appreciate
any and all responses.
[1813] Thomas in New Braunfels, TX Unwilling
To Correct Paperwork Error
I recently bought an out of
state car from Florida and I live in Texas. In Texas you have to get
a VI-30 Certificate in order to do your title and Registration work.
I got the car inspected on my way home and went the following day to
the Tax office. They informed me that the form was filled out wrong.
In order to get it corrected I would have had to drive 30 minutes one
way to get the form corrected. I decided to have it redone at a local
shop a mile from the tax office. This worked I was on my way. So I
then went a day latter back to the Jiffy Lube where the first
inspection was done and asked for a refund and that is when the
trouble began. The manager there was very unprofessional he was a
rude man that barely even let me get problem out before he cut me off
and said “NO”. The error was they got the wrong car off of my
insurance form. That was sold. I am very upset and am going to turn
this violation into the state and let him get the fine unless I get my
refund.
[1812]
Frank in Mashpee, MA No Oil Destroys Engine
My son purchased his first car
a 1991 Peugeot. I had the oil changed at your store in Mashpee,
Massachusetts. Left the store and smoke was pouring out of the
tailpipe. Went back and the manager said that the forgot to remove the
air outake tube and some oil must have gotten into it. Left it running
at the store till the smoke stopped. After that the car did not run
the same. Five day later it starting knocking and seized up. I took it
to a mechanic and he said it had no oil and this caused the engine to
stop.
What should we do? I am not a
mechanic I have taken all our cars to your store and never had a
problem. The mechanic says it is directly related. The care was a 1991
but ran great. It was my sons first car and he worked all summer to
pay for it. Now he is left with nothing.
[1811] Heidi in Miami, FL Forgot To Replace
Radiator Fluid
On Saturday, August 27, 2011, I went in for a regular oil change
(82Ave&Flagler Street) the service tech told me I needed a radiator
fluid exchange for my Jeep Cherokee ($129.99).
I agreed. The very next day on my way to my niece's baptism, I noticed
the car overheating. We stopped and notice there was no radiator
fluid. We bought some at Target, but it did not help, the radiator was
leaking the coolant. We tried to get the car started, but it turned
off. We had to tow the car from Ft. Myers to Miami ($250) dollars. We
missed my niece's baptism and had no ride back to Miami until the next
day. I called JiffyLube several times, stopped by to speak with the
manager, dropped off a letter of my complaint, no one contacted me. I
called their headquarters, they were able to get them to call me. They
came to inspect my car, then they said it was not their fault. They
offered to refund the 129 dollars I paid only but for nothing else. I
had to tow the car to a certified mechanic to inspect it. The radiator
is gone and the motor got damaged. I filed a complaint with the
Florida department of consumer services. I don't know if they will
resolve the issue. Has anyone taken Jiffylube to small claims?
[1810] Syd in
Scottsdale, AZ Overcharged
I brought a $5 off coupon to
your store att 11243 E. Via Linda in Scottsdale, Arizona. It is my own
own fault that I never asked the price, but even with the $5 coupon, I
was charged $39.99 for an oil change, at least $10 more than I
expected and about $15 above the going rate for these in my community.
Not good public relations. The
technician called me into the bay to show me what he was going to do,
but never mentioned the price I would be paying. They should ALWAYS
tell you the total.
I put this story onto my
Facebook page, By the time that gets around to friends of friends,
many hundreds of people will probably avoid Jiffy Lube.
[1809] Sandy in Richmond, VA Taking Advantage
of A Female
Coast my daughter 115.66 to
get her oil change she said she didn't need a air filter what the
hell she only 18 & they took advantage of her richmond Va jeffy lube
[1808] Uncle in Pembroke Pines, FL
Dishonest Up Selling
DISHONEST!!! and unethical
up selling. I normally change my own oil, and take very good care of
my vehicles. I had just moved to town, and my stuff was still in
storage, so against my better judgement, I went to the Jiffy Lube at
17311 Pines Boulevard, Pembroke Pines, FL to have my oil changed
because it was due. While working on my truck, they told me that my
rear differential gear oil looked horrible, and I should change it
immediately. I knew for a fact that was complete BS and not true,
because I had recently changed it at the manufacturers recommended
maintenance interval. And I have dealer receipt to prove it.
OOPS. Caught in a lie, red
handed. But wait there is more... So a few months later, I'm due
for an oil change again. This time I changed it myself. It turns out
Jiffy Lube did not use a washer on the drain plug. It was missing.
Luckily it didn't leak, and I was able to remove the plug without it
seizing. This is why I change my own oil. Rip off artists and
incompetent. It's a shame you can't trust anyone anymore, certainly
not the jerks at this place.
[1807] Karen
Re-inspection Failures
Last week I paid for a state inspection, as
well as an oil change, and a couple other add ons. I failed the
inspection due to the fact that I needed to get new back tires. I was
told to go get new tires, and then return so that I may have them
double checked, and therefore receive an updated inspection sticker.
So I bought new back tires, and returned today to the same location to
get my re-inspection.
I walked in to find a gentleman standing
behind the counter, and he asked me if I was there for a
re-inspection, and I said yes, and showed him my paperwork. I asked
how long it would take to get started, and he told me he would being
working on my car, and he specifically said he will check my tires, in
45 minutes. I went to take a seat, and turned around to ask "Is it
okay if I step out and come back, in 45 minutes??" And he smiled, and
gently said "Yes of course you can leave and come back" And I replied,
as a double confirmation, "Okay so, I'll be back in 45 minutes." This
was approximately 3:45 PM.
At exactly 4:30 PM, I walk back into Jiffy
Lube and I explain that I was told it would be my turn in 45 minutes,
and the new gentleman behind the desk has no idea what I'm talking
about. He says I need to wait additional 1.5 hours before I can get my
tires checked, a procedure he admitted only takes 7-8 minutes. I felt
misled, and asked to speak to the gentleman who quoted me when I first
walked in. The gentleman comes in to tell me that under no
circumstances will he take a look at my vehicle at that moment because
of the fact that I had left and returned. At this point, I became
furious. I had asked for permission to leave, "if it was okay," and he
responded YES. I did my part, I asked politely, and returned before it
was my time in the line. Now he is telling me that I am at fault for
leaving the store, and that he will not get to my care for another 1.5
hours. I continued to explain to him how absolutely unfair and
unacceptable this was, and he smiled carelessly. I then demanded to
speak to the manager; at which point, he informed me that he was the
manager. I asked to speak to his supervisor, and he simply said "he's
not here." I asked for a phone number or a business card, and before
giving it to me, the 'manager' repeated one last time that this store
has a first come first serve basis. I, again, demanded the
supervisor's number. Then he finally gave it to me.
I am absolutely disgusted at this man's
behavior and with the employees who backed him up. I left the store
feeling completely disregarded as a valuable client, especially one
who has already paid for the services weeks in advance. How dare an
employee, let alone a manager, tell me one thing is okay and then
punish me for it later. This is an business is being run entirely
unprofessionally, and I have yet to get my tires checked or my
inspection sticker due to the fact I refuse to go back there after the
way they basically pushed me away.
[1806]
Jon in Los Angeles, CA Theft @ $500/hour
The below is an email that I
sent to Jiffy Lube (JiffyLubela.com) on 8/24/2012 detailing the issues
I had with their service and personnel. To date I have heard NOTHING
from them. When I tried to send the same email to the corporate sight
I got error messages until I was frustrated enough to quit. These
people should be put out of business.
Good evening,
I am writing to you to express
my EXTREME displeasure with an experience my son and I had with your
location #1470 on La Brea Ave in Los Angeles. The Invoice number is
1470 7070876 Bay1 and the transaction number is 11082307070876, the
employees were ALU, FOA, 1470ED, WM, Dup639 and FAP.
My son took his truck into
have an oil change done and he was totally taken advantage of and
quite frankly he was STOLEN from. While this is certainly a life
lesson for him in how to deal with situations like this it is also
shameful of your people and organization that it happened in the first
place.
I went into the location today
and spoke with a person who identified himself as the assistant
manager (never did give me his name - I see from the bottom of the
receipt that his name is J Zamora) and attempted to address this issue
and came away with a full on knowledge that at least this location of
Jiffy Lube is being operated in an underhanded, unethical and I
suspect ILLEGAL manner. I could tell immediately upon my arrival that
your manager had been trained to deflect any and all RESPONSIBILITY
from himself and this location and had clearly not been empowered to
do anything besides cover his backside. When I entered the office I
do have to give him credit in that he approached me and asked how he
could help - when I responded that I would like to speak to a manager
his whole attitude changed and his FIRST reaction was to escort me
outside the building before he started to address me. I ask you a
simple question - does and honest man and an honest operation
automatically move to a 100% defensive position and concern themselves
with separating a person who has made a simple request like this from
the customers in the waiting room - I would say NO!! For all he knew I
could have been there to complement them on their excellent service
but my guess is that he is experienced in knowing that he has to
contain a potential "scene" and move it to where it can cause the
least amount of damage. I have been in business a very long time now
and can tell you that his behavior smacks totally of systematic
instruction and training and is indicative of a much larger problem.
When we went outside I had
barely explained that I was upset about the "services" provided before
he launched into a VERY PRACTICED deflection of responsibility. He
identified that he had done the service consult himself and stated
that he only pointed out that the manufacturers recommendation is that
the variety of services he offered suggested service and he made no
indication that any actual inspection had been done. His clear
indication was that he had done nothing wrong and the responsibility
was totally my sons. While that is true to a certain extent it is
clear to me that this individual did his absolute best to take
advantage of my son and maximize the amount of money he could pilfer
from him. Not only was his statement a LIE his lack of any
accountability was insulting. He never even took the time to try and
diffuse the situation by offering an apology. After discussing several
of the charges in particular (which I will cover in detail below) he
basically stated that there was NOTHING he could do and suggested I
leave HIS lot. I asked if he was not authorized to do anything then
who was - he suggested I talk to the manager - but oh by the way - he
won't be in until Friday. This hit me as another very convenient
deflection technique so I asked for the name of the district manager
in charge of this facility - he REFUSED to give it to me and only
offered that the manager could. Again I ask does an honest man act in
this manner - I again say NO. He did change his tune slightly when I
suggested that he reserve some time off to share a day in small claims
court with us - then and only then did he want to make sure that I
knew he didn't mean to say that they couldn't do anything to help us -
it was just that HE couldn't help us. I find it hard to believe that
an organization that has the growth record of your company would have
a manager in charge of a facility and not empower then to at least TRY
to offer a customer SOME SATISFACTION.
Some basic facts. The
services supposedly done:
Signature Service (41.74)
It is clearly indicated that floors were vacuumed - they were not.
It is clearly indicated that the windows were washed - they were not.
Auto, Trans, fld exchange (134.99)
This is the one that really boils my blood. Your manager indicates
that he only showed my son the computer screen where he says that
TOYOTA recommends that this service is PERFORMED every 15,000 miles.
But that is not true - he actually told my son that the fluid looked
"dark" and he should really have it replaced. The REALITY - it is
Toyota's recommendation that the transmission fluid is INSPECTED every
15,000 miles - an additional minor fact - this service was performed
by our local mechanic in December of 2010 - less than 10,000 miles ago
- and it was inspected by the same mechanic two months ago (4,600
miles ago) and deemed to be fine. I find it impossible to believe
that for a service that was done less than 10,000 miles ago could be
necessary again now. Your man saw a naive young man and pounced.
Rear Differential service
(59.99)
Again - shown the screen where he laid it on thick that Toyota
recommends service every 15,000 miles (never mind that the screen
actually says between 15,000 and 24,000 miles) - another little
reality check - Toyota actually recommends this particular service
every 30,000 miles for this vehicle.
Radiator Fld Exchange (89.99)
Same exact story as the transmission fluid
Fuel System cleaning service
(part 1) (79.99)
Gas Tank additive (step 2)
Labor for this "service" - 34.33
Let me get this one right - the charge to basically add an 8.99 bottle
of gas tank additive is 79.99 - the labor charge for this less than 1
minute operation is 34.33?
Then the one which may be the
smallest - but I am pretty sure could cause you the largest issue in a
class action suit - REWARDS CLUB CARD # 8 - CHARGE = $8.00. Let me be
100% clear - this charge was NEVER AUTHORIZED - this charge was NEVER
DISCUSSED with my son. There is no other way to state this other than
to state it as simply as I can - THIS WAS THEFT. Not only was my son
not asked it he wanted a rewards card - HE NEVER RECEIVED any
information about it or for that matter any BENEFIT from it.
Bottom line - the labor
subtotal was $164.66 for less than 20 minutes of work. With the items
that they say were provided I seriously have to question whether any
of this work was really done or even could have been done in the
amount of time the truck was in your bay. The fact that the
incidental labor charges work out to be close to $500 an hour is not
only ridiculous but boardline criminal.
One last thing - on the very
bottom of the receipt it is recommended that we come back at 252,690
miles - this is 3,000 miles - again NOT the recommeded mileage from
Toyota which is actually 5,000 miles. I don't begrudge you trying to
drive business but I can guarantee you that unless I hear from you
soon and gain some level of satisfaction NONE of the six vehicles in
my family will EVER see the inside of a JiffyLube and I can assure you
that I will pursue this to its logical conclusion.
[1805]
Ron in Wichita, KS Engine Flush Rip Off
Scam
Jiffy lube
Wichita Kansas East Central Location. They wanted to sell me an engine
flush and air filter said my 2006 Ford with 97,000 miles was sludged
up. I ran an automotive center for 18 years never would I refuse
service. They would not give me my $19.95 special refused to service
my car. Rip off scam.
[1804] Steve in Encinitas, CA
Falsification of Records
On August 26,
2011, I visited Jiffy Lube at 221 El Camino Real in the city of
Encinitas. During the visit, I asked for a standard oil filter and
oil change. After asking me half a dozen very annoying questions for
potential up-sells, my answers were no, no, no, no, no, etc. To the
point where this manager seemed irritated, and was more rude than I've
ever experienced during all the oil changes I've ever purchased, and
there must have been 100's by now.
After checking
out, I noticed that two of the items, windshield and vacuuming
indicated "customer declined." I never decline anything with this
onsite manager. He completely falsified their records. I paid for
the standard signature service and Jiffy Lube short-changed this
customer, and in the process, lost this customer for life.
Congratulations rude manager at 221 El Camino Real in Encinitas.
[1803]
Mary in Mankato, MN Unnecessary Check
Light
I had to spend
$45.50 to have a problem diagnosed which showed up on the dash as a
"Check" with a little symbol. The mechanic found that the Jiffy Lube
folks in Mankato, Minnesota did not plug in again the Intake Air
Sensor when they showed me the air filter as I had my oil changed last
week. The part that makes me furious is that I was the only car in
there at 8:00 that morning. There was no reason for this haste.
[1802]
Damoon in Santa Monica, CA Destroyed
Oil Tank
I came across your website this evening after a bad experience at
getting my oil changed at Jiffy Lube today. Apparently, the Manager
(Jimmy) indicated that they had broke my oil tank but that it was due
to wear and tear. I do my own oil changes regularly and found it hard
that a break in a metal oil tank is due to wear and tear. I brought
them my own oil and oil filter to simply get the oil changed - they
made me wait over an hour before telling me/showing me what had
occurred. Afterwards, I was told that they would have to fix the car
themselves or that it wouldn't be covered. I asked if Jimmy (Manager)
was qualified to perform an oil tank replacement and was assured that
they would use their own mechanic. After reading some of the news on
the internet, I'm beginning to think that my car is now going to be
destroyed. They did provide me a rental car at no cost and said they'd
have my car ready in a few days at no charge - but I'm beginning to
think it's because they aren't going to do anything. Have things
changed or should I be cautious and take certain actions?
In the event that something else ends up wrong with the car - how do I
find the franchisee so that I can file a lawsuit. It seems to me that
a small claims court is the only way to deal with these guys.
The Jiffy Lube I went to was: 2344 Pico
Blvd Santa Monica,
CA 90405
& Manager's Name : Jimmy
[1801]
Darlene in Gainesville, TX $8,000 of
Damages
My son took his
car to the Jiffy Lube in Gainesville. They did not replace the oil
filter correctly. JiffyLube was notified immediately of the situation
and offered to work with the dealer regarding the situation. After
about a month and over $8,000 worth of damages to the car, they are
offering to pay 40% of something they are 100% liable for. We will
have to file a lawsuit.
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